tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post3858509987239170820..comments2023-11-03T04:34:44.489-04:00Comments on Drinking Liberally in New Milford: Christianity as a Lifestyle ChoiceUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-54351862929764910522008-12-19T03:04:00.000-05:002008-12-19T03:04:00.000-05:00All very valid points, Dan, that I am sure they wo...All very valid points, Dan, that I am sure they would try and avoid addressing since it would make them feel uncomfortable in their lifestyle choice.Connecticut Man1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08923884330387123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-73027127226575016232008-12-18T01:41:00.000-05:002008-12-18T01:41:00.000-05:00I'm a little late to the party, but damn, great po...I'm a little late to the party, but damn, great post there. I saw that episode, and there was one point Huckleberry made that was pretty offensive to me, and you missed.<BR/><BR/>As it became clear that he couldn't fall back on the bible argument, he began making the 'other' reason that I hear all the time. The biological one.<BR/><BR/>In short the argument goes, "Marriage exists for the next generation's benefit. Gay marriage shouldn't exist because they can't produce offspring."<BR/><BR/>At first, this seems, if not rational, at least not insane.<BR/><BR/>But if you think about it, by that measure, a marriage isn't 'real' until the couple produces a child. If one accepts this argument, one is also saying that people who choose to not have children, or are sterile, don't have the privilege of being married.<BR/><BR/>Anyway, great article.Danhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13144598893243766116noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-84654140034017369642008-12-13T09:57:00.000-05:002008-12-13T09:57:00.000-05:00LOL! Thanks - I've had years of practice in this d...LOL! Thanks - I've had years of practice in this debate arena (unfortunately). I'm a huge gay rights activist and so I've done a lot of research on the subject. If you catch me off guard in another topic, I'm doomed!<BR/><BR/>I actually hesitated before responding, because like you, I tend to wonder if a reaction is even warranted. But in the end, I just can't keep my mouth shut (LOL).<BR/><BR/>Oi...Anokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-60132041842013404562008-12-12T15:11:00.000-05:002008-12-12T15:11:00.000-05:00Anok. You are one smart person. Remind me never to...Anok. You are one smart person. Remind me never to debate you... <BR/><BR/>Part of the reason I refuse to address the question is because we have already heard the slippery slope straw man argument in CT when they were debating same sex civil unions here.<BR/><BR/>The debate literally digressed to the level of "next people will want to marry dolphins" on their side as they were badly losing the arguments.<BR/><BR/>Since the real issue has absolutely nothing to do with their typical mythical arguments of incest, pedophiles and even bestiality, I really don't see the need to address it.<BR/><BR/><B>It is, I believe, their not-so-veiled attempt at equating homosexuality with those other things.</B> <BR/><BR/>Not that I will ever stop anyone from trying to make a point one way or the other around here, as low and intellectually dishonest as that one may be. <BR/><BR/>Though I may not always address them, I do reserve the right to mock the crazy points...Connecticut Man1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08923884330387123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-13173554500965006002008-12-12T13:53:00.000-05:002008-12-12T13:53:00.000-05:00Incestuous relationship concerning close relations...Incestuous relationship concerning close relations have a very real, and tangible dangerous side effect, that was outlawed as a health issue many moons ago. The detriment to society from inbreeding causes an actual decline of society through genetic encoding that destabilizes society at it's very core - through genetic mutations causing mental problems, and physical disabilities.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, a marriage or relationship between a parent and child does not occur only once the child is an adult - the attraction comes before that time, and a marriage legalizing parent/child relationships condones child abuse in that manner.<BR/><BR/>Furthermore, kin relationships already posses the rights and protections afforded to married couples, by mere relationship. The need for the contractual obligations between non related spouses is to, in effect, protect non related spouses from the spouse's family members, usurping legal rights, benefits, and obligations that are guaranteed to the spouse because they've invested their time and energy to said person.<BR/><BR/>In other words - the legal benefits and protections of marriage are <I>already</I> afforded to family members, and adding it on by way of marriage would be redundant.Anokhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05675278947623136467noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-52434476253839777892008-12-12T07:52:00.000-05:002008-12-12T07:52:00.000-05:00I should also add the fact that you make demands o...I should also add the fact that you make demands of others that you have no right to make.Connecticut Man1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08923884330387123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-23254326700571085602008-12-12T07:16:00.000-05:002008-12-12T07:16:00.000-05:00I already told you that you are standing on a myth...I already told you that you are standing on a mythical STRAW MAN argument slippery slope that doesn't exist.<BR/><BR/>I am talking about consenting adults and the biblical definitions of marriage and you may as well be talking about someone wanting to marry a dolphin.<BR/><BR/>If you need me to be answer you more directly: You are intellectually dishonest and your argument is a joke.<BR/><BR/>And you know this so you hide behind an anonymous comment.Connecticut Man1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08923884330387123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-44394137860919891962008-12-11T22:28:00.000-05:002008-12-11T22:28:00.000-05:00Answer my question directly, consenting incestial ...Answer my question directly, consenting incestial marriage legal yes or no if no why?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-38550561827920424412008-12-11T18:03:00.000-05:002008-12-11T18:03:00.000-05:00BTW Anon... I find your standing questioningly on ...BTW Anon... I find your standing questioningly on some mythical straw man slippery slope quite humorous when I am standing on the very real moral high ground.<BR/><BR/>You should be disturbed by your own meritless and nonsensical argument for a morally bankrupt point of view. <BR/><BR/>As I said in the post... It sickens me that I have to lower myself to argue an issue that the other side is wrong on in every way conceivable. Even by their own warped standards.Connecticut Man1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08923884330387123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-32145210925402191722008-12-11T17:32:00.000-05:002008-12-11T17:32:00.000-05:00What other consenting adults choose to do of their...What other consenting adults choose to do of their own free will is their own god damned business. Regardless of my own morals and values. It Ain't My Bidness.<BR/><BR/>Now... If they wanted to force me to do those things that I, personally, find are against my morals and values... Then it would be my business. <BR/><BR/>Kind of like forcing the morals and values of the bigoted anti-marriage equality set on everyone else. It ain't their business, nor do they have the right to do so.<BR/><BR/>But if marriage is sex and sex is marriage, as some in religious circles would believe:<BR/><BR/><I>In lieu of marriage, if there are no acceptable men in your town, it is required that you get your dad drunk and have sex with him (even if he had previously offered you up as a sex toy to men young and old), tag-teaming with any sisters you may have. Of course, this rule applies only if you are female. (Gen 19:31-36)</I><BR/><BR/>Then they are the idiots that would argue for your right to marry all of your daughters. Not me. <BR/><BR/>They would call it traditional marriage too... If they weren't making ridiculously hypocritical arguments all of the time.Connecticut Man1https://www.blogger.com/profile/08923884330387123010noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12355458.post-3353867474385118352008-12-11T15:56:00.000-05:002008-12-11T15:56:00.000-05:00And I should have the right to marry my adult daug...And I should have the right to marry my adult daughter or 3 or 4 for that matter. Or would you propose saying I can't do that? Maybe saying that society has the right to prohibit such wrongful marriages?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com